### John 1 - I agree wholeheartedly that we would need a `less specialized labor force`. I do feel we would need at least some specialists to teach our multi skilled labor pool, but I think a smaller society allows us to be much more flexible in terms of our skills. Furthermore we can afford to do this because our labor does not need to compete on the market with more specialized companies. - skill versatility with SME - As for mental health, I think you are absolutely right that environment can have an enormous impact on mental health over time. My understanding of how that manifests is limited however as I have never experienced being in a healthy community where my needs were considered and addressed. Sounds nice on paper. 😂 - Concerning communism, I think that is very fair. I agree `libertarian socialism` is a more accurate label. While we believe that our communities should exist to fulfill the needs of its members, we also are not suggesting that centralization is the way to achieve that. We hypothesize that `small scale direct democracy combined with socialist methods will create a society of human flourishing` #important - Concerning marketing, I think that would be a great tagline. As the `crisis of modernity` develops, we are going to see `enormous instability in the core systems of our society`. While the will to back an idea like this is not currently omnipresent, I anticipate that if we present this as a possible way to test societal reform without the need for violence, we would have a very real chance of convincing people with actual power and resources to listen. - I am not so pessimistic. Our differences here do allow us to speak to a wider range of people. I am happy that have not fallen into nihilism. - I think this idea will succeed or fail based on the `enthusiasm and ingenuity` of it's members. We can take advantage of the interconnectedness of our world to reach a small percent, but large population of, early adopters to hopefully tap into this `human energy`. - As for `convincing people of power`, I'm on the lookout for someone with experience navigating bureaucracy and understanding the common issues of the systems of governance, construction permitting, zoning, organizational laws. I hope to get insight into the hurdles - As cynical as my view of the world is, I cannot say that I do not see the beginning of these questions starting to manifest. I personally have had many conversations with my manager about why she sees so much turnover in our industry. When I explain the `collapsing economic conditions` that are forcing people my age to job hop, she at least considers my opinion rather than pretend like this is not a real problem. I firmly believe these kinds of conversations are going to happen with increasing frequency as things deteriorate further. - which of these economic conditions are you most concerned [[economic concerns ~ordered]]? ### Jim 1 - It's also probably a good idea to use the term `libertarian socialist` as it's more `incongruous` making people more open-minded if they believe you're not attacking their way of life. - I also need a way to communicate This that's not so quixotic maybe it's a set of questions that determines how readily somebody feels something is a problem like is climate change a problem we should think about? What measure of wealth inequality is acceptable in the society? - Alternatively maybe it's a question like What are our systems set up to optimize? Then leading into the concept of what a system would look like to optimize human flourishing. - Am I leaving anything off the core concepts: direct participatory democracy that decentralizes governance decisions focused on producing community determined universal needs through an automated an minimal amount of common-based peer production - direct democracy - universal basic needs - commons-based peer production - collaborative wellbeing ### John 2 - Agreed. `Libertarian socialism` also challenges the political biases most people have. In America, we believe libertarians are conservative while socialists are progressive. This idea inherently challenges that notion. - Leading questions are going to be key here. What I tend to find is every person who isn't completely delusional sees that society is going to shit. Almost every one of them is either anxious or holds their own ideas on `what needs to change`. The problem is people `vehemently disagree` on who bears the blame for society's current state. We focus on this instead of discussing solutions. - when people feel safe, they are more inclined to be solution oriented. It's hard to vehemently disagree if you feel truly accepted and unthreatened. Not everyone is in a position in life where they can feel unthreatened when talking about such dramatic change, but speaking calmly, clearly, and without judgement is always the best way to go. - I think a good baseline is asking this. - "If you could change anything about your life, what would you change." #question/core - With this, we immediately get a glimpse of the subjects `perception of their needs`. We can then try to reverse engineer `how our solution could address those needs` to a degree. For someone more conservative like a boomer, you may have better luck just talking about how you can "cut out the middleman" and grow food our damn selves. No more getting price gouged at retail. Pitch it like Sam's Club and they will love it. - the salesman emerges! - sam's club where you stock produce half a day a week to be a member - Your basic concepts look great. Depending on your thoughts I think we could add one more regarding our efforts to create a community. - "Establish and maintain a community of `mutual care`." - This would be the motivating factor for someone like me who is seeking connection over equality and sustainability - I appreciate you highlighting that about yourself. I too am drawn to the aspects of connection, collective problem solving, and of course process improvement - what do you think of the term `collaborative wellbeing` in place of mutual care? For me it pertains more to a larger group and seems more expansive and goal oriented